Brumley had been arrested numerous times in the past decade, beginning with an unlawful carrying of a weapon charge in 2007. Veronica said her brother borrowed a relative’s car to run an errand and got pulled over by police without knowing a pistol was under the seat. He served no jail time for the Class A misdemeanor.
He found more trouble that same year, however. He was sharing an apartment with several others, including one who was charged with counterfeiting. Brumley was caught on security video spending some of the money at a store. He was convicted on a state forgery charge connected to the case and spent two years, from 2008 to 2010, in the Texas prison system.
Not long after his release, he was convicted of driving while intoxicated. Then in 2011, he and the mother of one of his children got into an argument while he was staying at his mother’s house. The woman called police, and Brumley was charged with family violence, even though he insisted he didn’t physically harm her. Add to that an assortment of unpaid traffic tickets that had gone to warrant, and Brumley spent a month in the Tarrant County Jail last year, from July 8 to Aug. 12.
He was a player, a charming womanizer with seven children by four women and girlfriends on the side. His widow is Tiffany Meza. She and Brumley have three sons together, ages 1, 5, and 6. They met as teenagers and partied, fought, loved, and laughed together.
“We started off as friends,” she said. “I used to call him whenever I was upset and crying, and he would always hear me out and make me feel better. He was somebody I could trust. He would stay at my house. We fell in love.”
She finally decided to marry him in 2011 after he had started to clean up his act, she said.
“He turned his life around,” she said. “He wasn’t so wild as he used to be. He had to cut off [troubled] friends. He went to church. He got baptized. We got married. He tried to enroll in college. He was working.”
They hit a rough patch in December, she said, and had separated. Still, they kept in close contact, and she knew of his plans to go out on the night of Jan. 16 to see an old musician buddy.
“That night was the first time in a long while he had gone out,” Meza said.
Brumley picked up Ayala, a friend he’d known for three years, and took her to the house of Manuel Armendariz, a local musician and record producer. Brumley, a singer and rapper, used to be roommates with Armendariz, but they’d gotten in an argument over money and hadn’t spoken in a year. This was their first time to hang out since then. Brumley had written to apologize for the falling-out and said he wanted to be friends again.
“We hadn’t talked in a while, and as soon as he walked through the door, he acted all excited,” Armendariz recalled fondly. “We were listening to music, played a [computer] game, and talked a bit. It was good. He was telling me about his new job and his car.”
The two had once recorded rap music together, and they discussed a new project. Brumley had begun singing Christian rap, and he wanted to know if Armendariz was interested in producing some of it.
“I liked it. It was different,” Armendariz said. “A lot of people made fun of him for doing that music.”
Ayala said she recalled Brumley sipping on one mixed drink all evening. Armendariz didn’t remember his friend drinking any alcohol at all.
“He didn’t drink because he said he was getting up early the next morning to go eat breakfast with his dad and work on his car,” he said.
Brumley and Ayala left shortly after midnight. Armendariz heard about his friend’s death the next day.
“It doesn’t make sense what happened,” he said. “Daniel was no angel, but that doesn’t fit, him stabbing somebody. I could never see that. And the way he was that night, it makes no sense. It didn’t seem like he was in any kind of mood for that to happen. Why would he take a chance to mess everything up when he had everything going right?”
From there, Brumley and Ayala went back to his mom’s house in West Fort Worth, fixed something to eat, then went to Brumley’s room and stretched out on his bed to watch a DVD of the dance movie Step Up All In. They’d never been boyfriend and girlfriend, just friends, she said. Brumley contacted her on Facebook after he’d separated from his wife.
This was Ayala’s first time to hang with him in many months. She could feel them growing closer and edging toward intimacy, but it didn’t happen that night, she said. “We were just talking.”
Neither drank alcohol or used any drugs while at his mother’s house, she said. At about 3:30 a.m., Ayala asked him to take her back home to Diamond Hill. Her mother was watching her baby boy, and she wanted to be home when her son woke up. They climbed into Brumley’s car and headed toward her house, which is near H.M. Moore Elementary School on Northeast 37th Street.
Along the way, they passed Brumley’s sister, Veronica, driving on Long Avenue. It was 3:55 a.m., and she called Brumley on his cell phone to playfully give him a hard time, something they both enjoyed.
“I saw my brother coming toward Angle Avenue, and I called him, and I said, ‘Boy, what are you doing out?’ He said, ‘I’m taking my friend home.’ I tell him, ‘Boy, you know these [women] ain’t good for you and it’s late, you need to get your ass home.’ He laughed at me and said for me to be quiet and said he’d see me tomorrow.”
Five minutes later, Brumley dropped off Ayala and headed back toward his mom’s house. He’d only made it two blocks and was still next to the school when police pulled over his car.
Veronica has visited the crime scene often. Orange paint still marks the spot where Brumley’s blood pooled in the street. The place where the officer’s gun fell to the ground is marked with a “G;” a “K” marks the spot where a knife was found. Four other small orange circles show where the officer’s spent shell casings landed.
She and other relatives wonder if the officer manhandled her brother and forced him to defend himself. Veronica stares at the markings and tries to envision what might have happened. She’s never been able to envision her brother attacking a police officer.
“Daniel was not a bad guy,” she said. “He didn’t carry a knife. My brother is 6 feet tall. Why would he stab somebody like that?”
What she usually envisions is Brumley’s big smiling face.
“Daniel was silly,” she said. “He was very funny, loving. He had a big heart. My kids loved the hell out of him. You could be down and out, and he could always make you smile with something goofy. He became a Christian. He changed his whole life. He was into being with the Lord and making Christian music.”
She can’t comprehend why her brother would resist arrest.
“My brother has been in trouble with the cops before, but he’s never resisted arrest, never retaliated or got physical with a cop, none of that,” she said.
Ayala said Brumley was a positive person despite his criminal record.
“He never talked bad about cops or doing anything to cops,” she said.
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Police are limiting the information they release on Brumley’s death at this stage to “preserve the integrity of the investigation,” Police Det. William Hix said in a written response to Fort Worth Weekly’s questions.
The case will be forwarded to the district attorney’s office for presentation to the grand jury. The case is also under investigation by the department’s Internal Affairs Unit and the officer’s chain of command for further evaluation, he said.
Police are withholding the officer’s name because he had received threats of harm from individuals who knew or were related to Brumley, he said. (Brumley’s relatives dispute that claim.)
“On the morning this incident occurred, the officer, who is assigned to the K9 Unit, saw David [sic] Brumley run a stop sign, and a traffic stop was initiated for the observed violation,” Hix wrote. “After making contact with David Brumley and collecting identifying information, it was determined that he was wanted for warrants related to unpaid traffic citations and a warrant from the state attorney general’s office for unpaid child support.”
This is confusing to Brumley’s relatives. He’d just been in jail for warrants and was told they’d been cleared. Last week, they asked an attorney to check to see if Brumley had warrants. The attorney found none.
Hix said the arresting officer approached Brumley’s window after finding information on the warrants on his computer.
“Brumley was removed from his vehicle to take him in to custody,” Hix said. “Brumley was asked to step out and away from his vehicle, which is universally recognized as ‘procedural’ in virtually every context of police tactics training.
“Brumley was armed with a knife and attacked the officer with violent and distinct lethal intent, stabbing the officer several times,” Hix said. “The officer determined in a matter of seconds that his life was in jeopardy and responded to that threat with the only reasonable force option that was available. This force option [to shoot] was predicated on Brumley’s actions. The officer sustained stab wounds and was transported to a local hospital for treatment of those injuries.”
At least two witnesses watched the traffic stop that night, both of them within easy viewing distance. When Brumley pulled to the side of the road, he parked under a streetlight that illuminated his car and the front of the police car. Shadows made it more difficult to see the back of the police car.
One witness, who asked that his name not be used, saw the police lights flashing through his front window and went to see what was happening. He saw a man sitting in his car wearing a red cap and a police officer approaching the vehicle.
“He stood by his window, and they were talking,” the man said. “I noticed that the policeman had green fatigues on –– not camouflage but solid green Army fatigues. He didn’t have a regular uniform. I found that odd because he was in a regular police car.”
The motorist handed something to the officer, who returned to his vehicle and sat for at least 15 minutes. During that time, the witness left his window, opened his front door to a crack, and began watching from there.
“I didn’t have it all the way open,” he said. “To this day, I feel like if I had stepped out or showed that someone was watching, everything might not have happened.”
Finally, the officer got out of his car and walked up to Brumley’s window. Brumley opened his car door, stepped out, and began walking toward the back of the police car while the officer walked behind him.
“I thought, ‘Well he’s just going to handcuff him and take him in,’ ” the witness said. He shut his door and headed back toward his bedroom. Then he heard a shot. After a brief pause, he heard three more shots.
“I ran back to the door, and that time I opened it up completely,” he said. “I saw the officer. He walked fairly normal up to the front of his vehicle, then walked back. I hadn’t heard anything from him or anybody except the gunshots. Everything else was quiet.”
The witness didn’t see Brumley. As one of his children called 911, the man watched the officer nervously pace the length of his car a couple of times.
“I came out and I yelled, ‘Do you need some help? My daughter is calling 911.’ Then he started to limp and he started hollering, ‘Officer down, need backup, officer down, need backup.’ I was looking to see if there was another officer around.”
The officer then dropped to the ground. The witness approached him, but before he got to the curb another police car came screeching up with emergency lights flashing.
An officer jumped out and squatted down beside the fallen officer, and they huddled together talking quietly for several minutes.
It was then that the resident noticed the dark figure lying motionless behind the police car.
After a few minutes, the second officer walked back behind the police car to where Brumley was lying.
“[Brumley] was laying on his side with his face up. I saw a wound to his head. The second officer that came flipped him over and handcuffed him and said, ‘Don’t move, motherfucker.’ ”
That seemed strange to the witness since Brumley appeared to be dead or at least unconscious. If Brumley was still alive, no one was trying to give him first aid. If he was dead, why threaten him?
Hix said handcuffing Brumley was standard procedure, even after he was wounded.
“Being shot doesn’t instantaneously mean that a suspect is no longer a threat,” Hix said. “In that dynamic and rapidly unfolding event, our officers are trained to handcuff a suspect, and this is another universally accepted tactic.”
Meanwhile, several more officers huddled around the fallen officer and began yelling things like, “Stay with us! Keep talking! Don’t go out on us!” the witness said, which seemed odd since the officer didn’t appear to be seriously injured. An ambulance arrived quickly and took the officer to the hospital.
He overheard another police officer saying later that the fallen officer had been treated and released at the hospital. Brumley lay in the street unattended for about a half hour, he said.
The witness saw the officer’s gun on the pavement next to the police car but didn’t notice a knife. Only later, after the crime scene evidence had been outlined in orange paint, did he see the knife. The knife and gun, based on the crime scene paint, were lying a few feet apart.
Police blocked off the street and stretched crime tape to secure the scene. The resident, concerned about what he’d seen, approached an investigating officer.
“I told the policemen I saw a lot of things wrong,” he said. “If the officer was going to take him in, he should have pulled him out of the car and right away frisked him and cuffed him right there. But he got him out and walked him to the back of his car.”
The witness found it unsettling that the officer who shot Brumley wore Army clothes and combat boots.
“They’re getting toward a soldier type of outlook,” he said. “The city shouldn’t be like that. We’re getting to be like what they’re doing in Mexico.”
He has children who work late and come home at odd hours, and he worries that they might run into a similar situation.
Hix said the arresting officer was wearing an approved uniform.
“Our department does not issue, nor does any officer wear, ‘combat uniforms,’ ” Hix said. “K9 officers have an approved uniform that is specific to their job assignment and responsibilities. The uniform worn by K9 officers has the customary patches and equipment that make them unquestionably recognizable as a police officer.”
The witness still wishes he’d gone out into his yard and maybe prevented the shooting. He wishes he hadn’t stepped away from his door just before the shots were fired. He can’t be sure what happened.
However, another neighbor was watching from her doorway as well, during the whole incident. She too, asked that her identity not be revealed for fear of retribution. But she says the shooting has haunted her for weeks. She broke down crying several times during our interview.
The woman said she was watching from about 70 feet away, with an unobstructed view. She saw no sudden moves by Brumley, no struggle, no lunge, no attack.
“The officer got [Brumley] out of his vehicle,” she said. “They started walking to the back of the vehicle. They didn’t even make it to the back of the car. I don’t understand why they’re saying there was a struggle. He didn’t hesitate to get out of the car. He wasn’t arguing. I didn’t see a fight. I just saw them walking and then, ‘Bam!’ I heard a shot, and it scared the hell out of me. Then I heard three consecutive shots after that. I ran really quick to go check on my grandkids, then I called 911. I didn’t hear the officer calling for any help. A little bit after, I went outside. I was yelling at him did he need any help. Then I heard him yelling, ‘Officer down’ and ‘Shots fired.’ He was yelling into his radio.”
She too had noticed the officer pacing after the shooting and then falling after her neighbor went outside.
“It seemed like an act,” she said. “He was walking fine. I told the detective he was pacing back and forth until he realized we were out there. Then he grabbed his leg and fell on the panel of his police car.”
She, like her neighbor, approached a detective on the scene to express her concerns about what she’d seen.
Weeks later, a police detective called with questions. He wanted to know if she was being forced by someone else to describe the shooting as she did, insinuating that some of Brumley’s friends or family members might be threatening her. But she had never met Brumley or his relatives prior to the shooting and said nobody had threatened her.
The only people she felt intimidated by, she said in our interview, were the police. But she didn’t tell that to the detective.
“I said, ‘My story has been the same the whole time, and I’m not changing my story,’ ” she said. “I saw a man shot in the head. Seeing him on the ground got to me. I want to know what Daniel did that was so bad that he had to die at a traffic stop. Why didn’t he get a ticket and put him on his way?”
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My family lives in disbelieve and with everything not making sense of what really happened. A young man full of life was taken from us way too soon. He was a loving father of 7 kids that will never get another chance to see or hug there father again in this lifetime. Whatever happened to “serve and protect”? Daniel (D-Boy) I Love You cousin and it hurts me to know your gone and I will never see you in person again. I listen to your music everyday wishing I had more time to spend with you. I can’t explain how much your missed here on earth and how hurt the family is now that your not here with us. You will forever be in our hearts and I thank god you were apart of our family….I am glad I got to call you my cousin. Rest in Peace Baby Boy. Till next time we meet again D-Boy.
On the 3rd page, 4 paragraphs under the picture of Daniel’s wife and mom, they (officer Hix) are using the name David Brumley? Who is David? This is about Daniel Brumley. Is this the editors mistake or is it the mistake of the officer speaking about the case?
“David” was the police officer’s mistake in his written response to my questions. The [sic] thing that you see after the name means that the Weekly was aware the name was misspelled but thought it important to leave it that way.
Thanks for replying, I agree that mistake is important.
So glad this article was written. While I have the utmost respect for law enforcement, I find it incomprehensible that every officer is not provided with a video camera to be worn on their person at all times that they are on duty. The excuse from the police departments about them not being in the budget seem completely ridiculous considering how much money is spent fighting lawsuits from family’s effected by police brutality and man hours spent in internal investigations. These cameras should absolutely be mandatory to protect our law enforcements actions and to bring peace to families in situations such as these.
These cases are sad even when a police shooting is justified. That said, I think most people believe that most police shootings are justified. The article is slanted to accuse the police and explain away any fault of Daniel Brumley. For example, Daniel’s mentor, Mary Perez, said he faced an economic barrier as a young man with no college growing up in the Northside. Perhaps, but what about the fact that he had 7 kids with 4 different women?
Such men often have child support issues. Tarrant County family court records show Daniel owed $30,000 as of 2011 in one child support case, and $35,000 as of 2013 in another case. In the latter case, constables tried to serve him with an order to appear in court, but they could not find him. He was finally served on August 8, 2014 with an order to appear on August 19. This time constables easily found him because he was in jail. He was out of jail on August 12, like your article says, but he did not appear as ordered. So in September 2014 a capias (which is treated like an arrest warrant) was issued.
When the officer stopped Daniel that fateful night, he checked for outstanding warrants, and it was this capias that he found. He then would have taken Daniel into custody. The family says they checked afterwards to see if Daniel had any outstanding warrants that night. But why did they check on that? To see if he might have had a reason to resist arrest?
A common thread running through the police killings of Eric Garner, Michael Brown, and Daniel Brumley, is that they were young men who resisted arrest or, worse, assaulted a cop. Who taught them their values? Who taught them it is acceptable to resist the police? In each case, grieving parents called out for police reform. In my opinion, they might have looked for fault at home.
The only one saying Daniel resisted arrest is the cop who shot him. The story talks about two witnesses who say different. Whoa re yoiu to say Daniel resisted arrest like Eric Garner and Michael Brown and brought this on himself? Were you there? No you weren’t.
The family (actually, a friend helping the family) said they sought an attorney to look for warrants because they wondered why Daniel was removed from his car for a traffic stop, and they hadn’t been able to get that information from police.
Daniel was way behind on child support payments, obviously skipping his payments while he was in prison or jail, but also when he was free. Daniel’s wife said child support payments were being automatically deducted from his paychecks at the job he held when he died.
The max an employer can withhold for child support under Texas law is 50%, even if the amount owed is higher. Realistically, by making 7 babies with multiple baby-mamas and without a secure job, he was setting up circumstances from which he could never recover. Now that he’s gone, we taxpayers will be supporting his kids, but we probably were already.
Just me, speaking only for myself, I had much, much rather be supporting innocent babies than grown-up Peckerwood cops who lie like a rug. It’s hard for me to imagine anyone who could disagree.
Benito, probably a large portion of the 47% who pay no federal taxes think it’s a good idea for federal taxpayers to support other people’s kids. I got that.
Gordita, I assure you that the self-important smartypants who side with black-hearted, Peckerwood bullies against their own sisters and brothers don’t impress me even a tiny smidgion. What do you eat? Have you no shame? Why do you hate your fellow Mexican sisters & brothers? Are you rich? Have you no shame? Do you think Jesus was lying when he made us aware “it is in giving that we recieve”. Do you get that or maybe you are not only a fool but a heathen?
Unless Jesus was lying, it is an expected and honorable act to assist the poor, the hungry, and the down-trodden. Why do you hate Jesus? You behave like a heathen. You think and talk like a heathen. You are a disgraceful member of the Latina family. Repent, your breath stinks, ask anyone.
Benito, you can’t support a position by quoting a Bible verse in isolation. Jesus did not countenance greed, but neither did he preach sloth and irresponsibility. And what is a fellow Mexican sister? Una lesbiana? Learn English.
Gordita, learm compassion, learn that talking down to heartbroken familys with a murdered family member isn’t acceptable by normal citizens. Your opinions don’t hold water, you are a disgraceful human being. Why do you torment this honorable family?Who made you Queen bee? Learn common decency. You cannot support a position by being a self satisfied hammer-head. I have a sweet bird-dog with a bigger heart than you. Grow up.
Another heartbroken family’s determination to blame their son’s death on a racist cop led to the burning of Ferguson, Missouri. All for nothing. Even the white-hating, anti-cop Attorney General Eric Holder admits the cop was in the right. There was no “hands up” and there was no “don’t shoot” and there was no shot in the back. That was all a lie.
Not here. Concerned citizens are right to resist the Brumley family’s attempt to accuse the cop who shot their son as a racist and try their case in the newspaper.
The cop can’t be tried in the newspaper. The cop can take the lie test. Why not? Again why not? To believe cops don’t lie, steal, fool around on their wives, covet other folks good fortune,and have stinking feet is stupid. He should demand it himself, why hide…what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, Just take the test. Cut the crap, quit hiding like other criminals, get right… face the music, or get out of town like a egg-sucking dog.
Don’t you watch the news? Are you deaf, blind, and crazy? The Police Chief, and down to the janitor sweeping up the City Hall in Ferguson are liars, thieves, racist, and tee-total maggots. God is currently rewarding the heros in Ferguson who are standing up to the racist rats who hold power. Are you on drugs? You need some help girl, don’t you have a Priest? If not find a shrink, and absolutely quit taling those pills.
Mariposa, I have no idea what you are talking about, because you decide to become flippant on the issue about child support and comments that were inappropriate toward people of races. The point is not about child support or values, the point is, what had happened that night.
Mandy, following the Michael Brown killing in Ferguson, his family and much of the media created a false narrative of a “gentle giant” who fell victim to a police proclivity to shoot young men of color. It turned out that Brown was a thug who stole cigars, roughed up a store clerk, roughed up a cop, then charged the cop while the cop was shooting at him.
This story also creates a false narrative. It says Brumley was a loving father though he was seldom around. Viewed differently, Brumley was a liberal sperm-donor who didn’t financially support his kids. FWPD Det. William Hix told the FWW reporter that Brumley was wanted for warrants on the night of the incident, including a warrant for unpaid child support. The family disputes this. They say they had an attorney check for outstanding warrants and the attorney found none. Thus, the family discredits even an objectively ascertainable statement from FWPD. Why?
The question for you is: Why does any disclosure of facts that challenges the family’s narrative amount to racism?
False narrative? HA! So you know Daniel, the 4 mothers to his children and his 7 children personally? I’d be willing to bet that you do NOT. Yes Daniel made mistakes in his life that ultimately set him up for failure but to say he wasn’t a loving father simply because of unpaid child support is ignorant and disgusting.
The family sought an attorney to check for warrants not to see if there was a reason to resist (Daniel has been arrested several times and never,not once has resisted) instead they checked to see if there was a reason he was stopped in general to rule out profiling.
Joe I don’t think it is disputed that the cop was stabbed. So either Daniel stabbed him or he stabbed himself. If the witnesses can’t say which, then they weren’t witnesses to the whole episode.
Therefore, What IS disputed is why the whining, gutless cop is hiding and not taking a lie detector test. It’s free, doesn’t cost him a dime. cops love giving lie-detector test. Do you sense something peculiar here? Why don’t all the cops involved jump at the opportunity to clear everything up? Well Mariposa??? Talk is cheap. In this instance, action is sky-high. What’s the hold up? Are these cowards so special that Fort Worth lets them smile and walk on by this stinking travesty? Fort Worth is supposed to be better than this. let’s clear this up. It’s simple. Just discontinue the self-righrous jive. Get real, get honest, stand up straight Fort Worth Police Department. They told us in school that cops were our friend. Make it so. Get it right.
@Mariposa: “The article is slanted to accuse the police and explain away any fault of Daniel Brumley.”
As the author of this piece, I agree the article appears slanted. That tends to happen when one side of the argument won’t or can’t make themselves available to answer questions and provide information. Police provided very little information. Daniel’s friends and family were willing to talk for hours. The story might feel slanted in Daniel’s favor because his relatives did most of the talking and filling in missing blanks. The police have 60 days to finish their investigation and another 30 days to present to the grand jury. So the family must wait three months to get any information about the shooting of their loved one. That’s a long time to wait. Yesterday I spoke with another family whose son was shot and killed by Fort Worth police. They’re still waiting two years later for information and explanations from police. This newspaper is not slanted against police, but we’re not inclined to wait months or years to write a story about a controversial situation because one side won’t talk.
I graduated from high-school here in Fort Worth in 1961. Three of my best buddies in school became Fort Worth policemen. I’m a recovering, falling-down drunkard with over 30 years of sobriety today. I have been aquainted with quite a few alcoholic police-people both before and after sobering up and attempting to amount to something.Several years ago, during his midnight shift, one of my high-school policeman pals was caught burglarizing a business, and loading the stolen goods into the trunk of his patrol car. He was quietly fired and there is no record of the incident. I certainly don’t know if the policeman involved in killing this young man is being truthful or lying like a rug, but I do know that a cop will lie like a rug concerning things no more important than a trafic ticket. I suggest asking the cops involved to take a lie detector test. They are really big on lie detector tests when they are pitching and not catching. It would surely cause me to trust the cops more in this instance. Otherwise whatever the police say is not reliable. They become outcast with their fellow officers if they hold one another to the standards they demand from citizens. In my experience, whatever story they finally come up with is not worth a nickle without validation.The cop killed a citizen. I pray he is just an unfortunent hero, but in this instance he and the other cops should be instructed to take the test. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander…isn’t it? The cops should jump right on this idea. Anyone care to bet every cop involved will refuse? This could get interesting if some of the big shots we elected to represent us at City Hall support this idea seems reasonable to me. Cops are cracker-jacks at pitching….let’s see how they do at catching?
Hello…..hello…..hello…………….hello……………………hello You still there Mariposa?????????? hello hello hello???
There is good cops and bad cops and the guy who shot Daniel Brumley will be revealed as one or the other if not in this life then the next. The problem I see is that the police department are the ones who get to determine whether their own guys are wrong or right and seem to give them the benefit of a doubt most of the time. They don’t always give regular citizens the same benefit of a doubt and seem to go out of their way to ruin somebody’s life sometimes. Seems like two systems of justice, one for them and one for everyone else and that makes people suspicious of police.
Get it right Tex. Clearly, there are bad cops and there are bad cops until cops are required to maintain the same conduct and standards as normal citizens. In Fort Worth, they certainly have not behaved that way in my lifetime. When I was younger, my best buddies stepfather dealt blackjack in the backroom of a tavern on South Hemphill Street and paid a percentage of the take to a Detective who picked it up weekly. He shot and killed a drunken card player who was trying to cheat. He wasn’t even arrested. All the cops involved with this despicable killing should be required to face the music. Pull a knife on a cop, get real. What are you smoking?
Yes, I’m here, Ben. Sure, I’d be willing to force cops, presidents, secretaries of state, congressmen, accused criminals, and a lot of folks to submit to polygraph tests. Maybe the self-proclaimed witnesses in this case should take polygraphs, too. Fact is, these tests are voluntary. (C.I.A. agents probably agree to them as a condition of employment).The results of a polygraph, and a person’s willingness or not to take one, are not admissible in evidence.
That’s right Mariposa, it’s voluntary. Why in pluperfect hell haven’t these heros already taken the test? You are very imformed concerning police people.,, why are the cops not demanding to be tested for truthfulness? How could this be? Whose on first? What’s to lose? I am aware of what is admissable in court. In this instance, in my mind what’s not admissable is for the cops to refuse. Don’t you think so? What’s to lose? You should be first in line demanding some evidence of honesty What’s good for the goose, you know? While they’re on the machine, ask them how many times they’ve lied under oath previously. Two dollars will get you five if you can get a single cop to go for it. I’m standing on ready, let’s go. Cops love to demand lie detector test, let her rip!!! You should be demanding it if you want the truth. Let’s go, get it on. Who is lying here? Certainly not the dead young man.
I have no way of knowing if the folks who witnessed this rotten, stinking, dishonest, dishonorable, cowwardly piece of slimy, repulsive police service to our community would take the test. The Police Dept.has dismissed their eye witness testimony right off the bat. What’s new here?
Don’t you believe, Mariposa, that all that would be required to get a test of the decency, and character of these killer Police people would simply be to suggest to them that the community would respect them and appreciate them more if they would help untangle the tragedy of blowing this young person to Kingdom Come? I can think of only one reason for them to hesitate one second. If I were in their shoes, I would demand the test or expect to be shamed and fired and reviled by square citizens. What’s wrong with you? Why do you hate Fort Worth? Who picked you to reply here? You won’t lie to us …will you? Come clean, O.K.???
A common thread
(already false)
running through the police killings of Eric Garner, Michael Brown, and Daniel Brumley, is that they were young men who resisted arrest or, worse, assaulted a cop.
FALSE
Who taught them their values?
Who are you to ask such a question when you probably know nothing about these people and judge them on only what you’ve heard of them.
Who taught them it is acceptable to resist the police?
In each case, grieving parents called out for police reform. In my opinion, they might have looked for fault at home.
In my opinion I’m glad you’ve stated your opinion but have no facts to base this on this particular case to be thinking you can just compare them to one another. May this family receive there justice sooner than later.
A common thread… Already this comment left is false. running through the police killings of Eric Garner, Michael Brown, and Daniel Brumley, is that they were young men who resisted arrest or, worse, assaulted a cop. Also FALSE! Who taught them their values? Who are you to ask such a question when you probably know nothing about these people and judge them on only what you’ve heard of them.
Who taught them it is acceptable to resist the police? In each case, grieving parents called out for police reform. In my opinion, they might have looked for fault at home. In my opinion you should have just kept your own opinion to yourself. You say a lot but have no facts to base this on this particular case to be thinking you can just compare them to one of the others. May this family receive there justice sooner than later.
Protect and serve, my foot. Someone in authority in Fort Worth should demand that this so called hero and his bosses begin conducting their duties as they are sworn to do. Whose on first? Whose going to get the truth out of these lying cops? Right is right and wrong is wrong, and this stinking episode is outrageous. Each policeman involved should behave as an honest public servant and ask for a test to confirm the truth!! That a single policeman involved in this tragedy refuses to verify their statement is outrageous. Every citizen in Fort Worth should be throwing rocks at these shiftless bums. Why are the decent cops not demanding cooperation from these louts? Is there no honor or honesty in any of our Fort Worth Police? On the square, has it come to this? Mayor? City Council? Preachers? Lawyers? School Teachers? Firemen? Are we shameless? Do we have any honorable cops with a single hair on their butt? Has it come to this? At long last? Good grief. What a lousy, stinking, piece of work from the entire city if this is the best we care to do.
Mariposa,are disgusting. I can assure you that you are not taking care of his children. The mothers took care of them financially!! So don’t assume anything.
You are talking as if you know first hand what happened. The truth will be revealed and you will eat crow!! You should be ashamed of yourself!! His family is grieving and you have no compassion
Why was he out having a “great time” with his female companion at 4am when he has a wife and kids at home? Sounds like he found God alright.